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Yuletide assignments are out. If you are my author, you can find my letter here, I wrote it last week.

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There have been some yuletide icons floating around that people have made, and recently there has been a lot of discussion of assumed knowledge and of 'cultural norms,' some of it related to yuletide and some of it not. [livejournal.com profile] chomji posted some icons here earlier in the month, and I recall there was some concern that some people might be upset over the Hanukah icon. The thing is, whilst the whole secret santa concept stems from the Christian/Christmas thing, everyone's yuletide experience is different. During the yuletide kerfuffle, someone commented that they always explicitly ask for no Christmas stories when requesting their stories. It had never occurred to me that people might ask for Christmas stories during yuletide.

My December 25th: I wake up and sulk that the stories don't come out until at least GMT -5, and since I'm at GMT +8 that's a long wait. Usually my partner and I meander out, blinking in the bright, early morning light. We sit under the patio at his parents' house, coughing as my partner's father burns stuff on the barbie and contemplating a morning swim. We go up to visit my parents, who love giving presents for a million reasons, and use Christmas as a reason to spend a ridiculous amount of money (second only to the amount of money they spend at Chinese New Year). We meander home. Sometimes we sms friends, see if anyone is up for a visit to the beach.

Then I get to read the yuletide stories.

The point of this is that when people post their yuletide icons, I'm kind of like, stars and snow, that's great, whatever. I've blogged previously about this dissonance, people talking of snow all the while I'm sweating like mad. So, like a dork, I rummaged through some of my photos from last year, and have made some yuletide icons that are far more relevant to me than those usually are. I would love it if anyone wanted to use these (if you do, please comment to let me know), but I understand if they're not really your thing.

Also, I don't want to encourage the stereotype of Australians and bright sunny days and beaches and things, but this is what I do December through January, I'm not going to lie, so.

I'm not cutting, because there's only eight of them.



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Date: 2007-10-20 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyamainu.livejournal.com
While I don't live in Australia, I do live in Texas, and your pics are much, much closer to our Yuletides than any of the "White Christmas" stuff you see everywhere else...

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Date: 2007-10-20 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
I just can't even imagine it - I've never even seen snow! Which is why it's so weird for me.

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Date: 2007-10-20 04:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alias_sqbr
Heh. I need christmas icons of sunny days...outside my window :) I'm not big on the outdoors.

Hmm. Summer fruits and big hats are possibility, though.

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Date: 2007-10-20 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
I am going to invite you to picnics, and you are going to come along and you are going to LIKE IT, MISSY.

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Date: 2007-10-20 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sajee.livejournal.com
I love you.

No, srsly.

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Date: 2007-10-20 02:42 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2007-10-20 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynross.livejournal.com
I just wanted to say that I think these are a *fabulous* idea!

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:12 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2007-10-20 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elke-tanzer.livejournal.com
This is awesome and I've kind of been hoping that someone would do this. *glee*

Now I'm realizing that although in my mind, Yuletide is snowed in with a woodstove blazing, I should take some photos of Christmas lights strung on palm trees here in Los Angeles and make some Southern California-themed Yuletide icons...

Thanks so much for doing this!

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
You definitely should! It would be awesome if everyone could have area-specific icons, how cool would that be?

So, wait, you been hoping someone would make beach icons? :o)

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Date: 2007-10-20 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbetter.livejournal.com
Excellent points you've made! And even though I will probably be buried in snow on December 25th, I'm snagging that first icon - because it's awesome. ;)

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
The icon is awesome because those ice treats are awesome - they're just basically fruit that has been mashed or squashed, and then frozen. They are SO DELICIOUS.

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Date: 2007-10-20 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazigyrl.livejournal.com
Ah but since yuletide and it's association with snow predates Australia knowing of such seasons, you are battling a long standing history. :)

Very nice icons. I thought I'd miss snow at that time of year till I spent the several seasons in Florida with my parents (they being Snowbirds - retired Cdns who head south for winter). I kept insisting on going to the beach each Dec 25th, because we could and enjoy it the way it should be.

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
I know, damn the late entry to the Christmas stakes. :o)

I can't really imagine a Christmas with snow - for me, all of Christmas' connotations have to do with sweltering heat, backyard cricket and visits to the beach. And picnics, battling with the flies. The idea of being all rugged up and cold is just weird!

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com
Hee, that's fabulous. Actually, there was a discussion about this in the long fandom_wank thread about Yuletide - about whether southern-hemisphere people are offended by snowflake icons, or by the "Midsummer" ficathon (for a set of Canadian fandoms), and so on. So, yay you for making Yuletide icons that are relevant to all those disenfranchised Australians!

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Hah, that's kind of funny. I am glad I can help all the disenfrachised Aussies!

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Date: 2007-10-20 03:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vass
Good job. I especially like the beach cricket. Very much in the spirit.

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Thank you! Backyard cricket, more than beach cricket, has become an important part of my summer festivities, but I do love it all the same.

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Date: 2007-10-20 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranalore.livejournal.com
As a San Diegan, these look much more like Christmas as I know it right now. *G*

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Nice and warm and BRIGHT? :o)

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Date: 2007-10-20 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathocles.livejournal.com
Now, those are Christmas icons. *g*

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
I keep looking at them going, hurry up, summer! :o)

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Date: 2007-10-20 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyssa23.livejournal.com
Terrific! As a native South Texan who now lives in Southern California, I am also not familiar with this thing called "snow." Sadly, I have no room for more icons, but just wanted to say these are awesome!

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:16 am (UTC)

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Date: 2007-10-20 05:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shayheyred.livejournal.com
I think you're a genius, frankly. Though I do live where Yuletide time is cold and potentially snowy, it's great to remember the participants live all over the world, and that for some Christmas is a summer holiday. Brava!

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Haha, thank you! And you should try a summery Christmas, it's pretty awesome! :o)

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Date: 2007-10-20 06:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] automaticdoor
I'm from Florida. These are *awesome*. I'm snagging a few with credit.

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:23 am (UTC)

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Date: 2007-10-20 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melanie-anne.livejournal.com
Awesome icons!

I'm South African, so the whole snow thing is strange to me too. :) Thanks for posting these.

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Date: 2007-10-20 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lferion
*Waves from southern Arizona*

Awesome icons! Thank you :-). I've snaffled #2 and will credit with glee. We do get snow here occasionally (about once every 3 - 5 years) but shiny blue skies and fountains are much more like it. I do have a pic of a saguaro with snow on it....

*Wanders off thinking about AZ specific icons*

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
You should make them! I think it's important to remember that we all *enjoy* the yuletide thing, but it's a totally different experience for each of us.

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Date: 2007-10-20 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aquila1nz.livejournal.com
I took one of the beach ones, thanks.

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Welcome! Also, I love your icon, it's hilarious.

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Date: 2007-10-20 10:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bell
Southern-hemisphere appropriate icons yay! :3

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:27 am (UTC)

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Date: 2007-10-20 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarren.livejournal.com
Brilliant, thanks! I was going to be cheeky and ask if the 'Me *arrow* Perth' one was shareable, then I realised it wasn't a Yuletide one *g*

YAY PERTH.

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
But the Me-->Perth one is LAME. I would remake it and swap it out, but then it would no longer be on hundreds of comments and posts, and the thought of that makes me SAD.

How would a Me-->Perth one be turned into a yuletide icon? I am not sure.

YAY PERTH.

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Date: 2007-10-20 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosmanor.livejournal.com
hi there

echoing [livejournal.com profile] sarren (hi [livejournal.com profile] sarren) with misplaced squeals of joy at someone making a Perth Yuletide icon, then discovering it wasn't, it was just a Perth one.

So, there's at least three of us from Perth doing Yuletide? Excellent.

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Date: 2007-10-20 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosmanor.livejournal.com
and have grabbed the Kings Park fountain icon. Will credit when I use it.

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*waves*

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Re: *waves*

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Re: *waves*

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Date: 2007-10-20 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wren-chan.livejournal.com
Squee! Many thank yous!

I hail from Houston (Southeast Texas) and while I've seen snow, it's only because I visit places like Colorado. Thus I snag your #5 icon, because it looks wonderfully like a scene from Hermann Park in my hometown. Sankyuu!

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
You are welcome!

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Date: 2007-10-21 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Hee! I live in Los Angeles, and that's pretty much my Yuletide experience too. Though nights can be pretty cold by the end of December, the days are usually still warm and sunny.

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Date: 2007-10-23 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Which is an excellent way to spend December! (except for the cold evenings bit :o) )
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
beach yuletide icons = love. (Also, I totally feel you on the getting up on Christmas morning thing - NZ's about as far ahead as you can get without it actually being yesterday. :P)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Haha, yeah, when I talk to my US friends I often refer to myself as from the future.

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Date: 2007-10-23 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightbear.livejournal.com
So, I was heartened by your summer-Yuletide icons. Thought the pics were nice. And hey, that looks like King's Park...

Then I read the comments and realised it actually was King's Park. Mind if I borrow number 2?

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Date: 2007-10-23 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com
Haha, sure, that's what they're for! 1 is Freo, 3/4/6/8 are Cotts, and 7 is King St in town, just so you know. :o)

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